Nicolle Wallace

I don't know. I mean, I think I think that's up to them. I think if their bet is that capitalism thrives in an autocracy, like we should go on a field trip. Like where? Yeah. Where does that happen? And like, here's the other thing that I feel like you had to be a political reporter to explain to a business leader. Like, so you do everything. It's like the law firms.

I don't know. I mean, I think I think that's up to them. I think if their bet is that capitalism thrives in an autocracy, like we should go on a field trip. Like where? Yeah. Where does that happen? And like, here's the other thing that I feel like you had to be a political reporter to explain to a business leader. Like, so you do everything. It's like the law firms.

You do everything Trump wants and you think you're safe. When does appeasement work? Point to a time in human history when appeasement has worked for a country, for a political party, for a person, for an institution. And if you can, then knock yourself out. Appease Boris all you want. But there's no example of it working.

You do everything Trump wants and you think you're safe. When does appeasement work? Point to a time in human history when appeasement has worked for a country, for a political party, for a person, for an institution. And if you can, then knock yourself out. Appease Boris all you want. But there's no example of it working.

And the reason it doesn't work is because I don't even think Trump likes the appeasers. I think he thinks they're weak.

And the reason it doesn't work is because I don't even think Trump likes the appeasers. I think he thinks they're weak.

Oh, Marco Rubio is unbelievable.

Oh, Marco Rubio is unbelievable.

And the fact that he's up there fighting for things that he's championed against is so – I mean, and look, he's almost a character from Ultra, right? I mean, like he's almost like a character from like how fascism happens, right? It's not just – The wannabe strong space man, or strong man, one word, it's the Marco Rubio's.

And the fact that he's up there fighting for things that he's championed against is so – I mean, and look, he's almost a character from Ultra, right? I mean, like he's almost like a character from like how fascism happens, right? It's not just – The wannabe strong space man, or strong man, one word, it's the Marco Rubio's.

And like, I wonder how you see him with all of your sort of study of history.

And like, I wonder how you see him with all of your sort of study of history.

You liked the COVID lockdowns. I'm the only person who was like, it's over? You were happy when you got it again. You're like, I'll see you guys in 10 days.

You liked the COVID lockdowns. I'm the only person who was like, it's over? You were happy when you got it again. You're like, I'll see you guys in 10 days.

To keep J.D. Vance on his toes, yeah. Oh, God.

To keep J.D. Vance on his toes, yeah. Oh, God.

I mean, I would add Ukraine to it, like that he sat in there while Trump ambushed and humiliated President Zelensky. When Rubio wasn't just someone who McConnell had to bring along on like Ukraine aid, he was a champion for Zelensky. I mean, what they did to Zelensky is, you know, literally switch sides in the middle of a war. I don't know that the country...

I mean, I would add Ukraine to it, like that he sat in there while Trump ambushed and humiliated President Zelensky. When Rubio wasn't just someone who McConnell had to bring along on like Ukraine aid, he was a champion for Zelensky. I mean, what they did to Zelensky is, you know, literally switch sides in the middle of a war. I don't know that the country...

ever recovers from that damage that they've done.

ever recovers from that damage that they've done.