Nigel Yalden

And from a journalistic point of view, that's fun.

That's good to be able to deal with that kind of person because there's nothing wrong.

We don't get it right every time.

We don't always word our questions the way we want to.

So there's nothing wrong in having that kind of good working relationship.

But

He doesn't get too far over his skis.

He knows when to draw it back.

The team has a really good performance.

He's always just there, just pumping the brakes quite nicely.

So he's been here, he's done this, and so he's got a really good handle on things.

So I haven't really seen vast differences at all.

It's been, obviously they're different personalities, but it's been pretty similar to what we have seen throughout the Clayton McMillan time.

No, I don't think they are.

I think they've still probably got another couple of cogs to go through and they're going to need to at least go up another couple against the Crusaders on Friday night and then reach for another level if necessary.

where the final is going to be.

Well, where we think the final is going to be is going to actually happen.

But just in terms of what they need to do Friday night, look, there's still levels to go through.

And I think, funnily enough, it's actually on attack.

I still think, obviously, there'll be areas in the defence.