Noam Brown

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1,199 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2022 last heard Dec 2022

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I saw it was a great episode.
so much and Phil's gonna hate this so much and I'm gonna give him I'm gonna give him credit because he is one of the few like old school really strong players that have kept up with the development of AI so he is trying to he's constantly studying the game theory optimal way of playing exactly yeah and I think a lot of a lot of the old school poker players have just kind of given up on that aspect and I gotta give Daniel Negreanu credit for keeping up with all the developments that are happening in the sport
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, so I talked a lot about two-player zero-sum games, and what's interesting about Diplomacy is that it's very different from these adversarial games like chess, Go, poker, even StarCraft and Dota.
Diplomacy has a much bigger cooperative element to it.
It's a seven-player game.
It was actually created in the 50s, and it takes place...
before World War I. It's like a map of Europe with seven great powers.
And they're all trying to form alliances with each other.
There's a lot of negotiation going on.
And so the whole focus of the game is on forming alliances with the other players to take on the other players.
That's right, yeah.
So the way the game works is on each turn, you spend about five to 15 minutes talking to the other players in private.
And you make all sorts of deals with them.
You say like, hey, let's work together.
Let's team up against this other player.
Because the only way that you can make progress is by working with somebody else against the others.
Um, and then after that negotiation period is done, all the players simultaneously submit their moves and they're all executed at the same time.
And so you can tell people like, Hey, I'm going to support you this turn.
Um, but then you don't follow through with it.
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