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Norman Ohler

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

I said, so what did you do?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

And he said, well, there were SS at the station where I was working and I was too scared.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

I didn't do anything.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

So I thought that he made himself guilty, I thought.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

And my father, for example, reacted very strongly because of that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

He never called him by his first name, the father of his wife, because he still had that, you know, he was a Nazi because he was working for the railway.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

So I wouldn't excuse people, actually, and I certainly would not excuse high-ranking politicians that make policies because the genocidal policies that the Nazis developed and the war policies that they developed had nothing to do with drugs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

And I never write that in any, you know, because there's no documents.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

If I would find documents that say, yeah, but the Nazi ideology has nothing to do with drugs, maybe with alcohol, you know, but it's... And I spoke with my father who had been a high judge in Germany.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

What does actually the law say?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

And the law says if you plan a crime and then maybe when you commit it, you are under the influence, it does not diminish your responsibility, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

your responsibilities only diminish, let's say you're a totally normal person, never done any harm to anybody, and suddenly you take a drug or you're totally drunk and you don't know what you're doing and you kill someone, then a judge could say maybe you have a lesser responsibility.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

But this is not the case with the crimes of National Socialism.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

And I never even hinted that in my book.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

So I think that criticism by Evans

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

was short-sighted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

I think he's not right about that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

He thought the book was very successful because a lot of right-wing people bought it, but that's simply not true.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

To the contrary, I got an angry letter by a German army employee, quite a high officer and a military historian.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#481 โ€“ Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

And he said that I, he also thought I overemphasized the drug use of the methamphetamine in the Western campaign because he said the German army was just so good.