Ocean Vuong
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
You know, it's either you go up or you get pushed off, right?
And eventually I realized that it wasn't about going all the way up.
It's about using that as a way to build a life for yourself and then coming back down.
How do you come back down from the mountain?
My whole life changed in the past five years, realizing that.
Because I'm like any American.
I was told, go on, move on up.
Go, go, go, go.
Get them, get them.
One award, great.
That will launch you.
You know, like these are strategic that you get an award.
Now you can apply to a tenure track job.
Yeah.
Then you have to do service.
You go to your deans and look at all the awards I got.
Can I get a raise?
You know, then can I get a load off my teaching so I can do research?
Can I get research fund?
So all these are strategic.