Oliver Crook

Yes, committing to the idea of ceasefire.

And you mentioned the Pearl Defense Program that was rolled out earlier this year.

Is that bringing you what you need at this stage?

Yeah.

And then the U.S.

shutdown.

There have been reports that the U.S.

shutdown has been affecting the Pearl program, that maybe it's been creating difficulties for allies to purchase through the program.

It has had delays to deliveries.

Has the U.S.

shutdown had an impact on the battlefield for you?

So you feel on the battlefield of the U.S.

shutdown?

Yeah.

And the other partners that you have are obviously the European partners.

We're sensing the Russian assets is, of course, the main debate that is happening in Europe right now.

there's a pattern with European leaders where at first they say no to something, whether it's tanks or some other things, then they go to maybe, then they get to yes.

Right now they're on maybe for the Russian assets.

Do you think they're going to get to yes?

And do you have assurances from European leaders that they will deliver loans on the Russian assets?