Oliver Stone
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314 appearances
4 recordings
4 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard Apr 2025
Oliver Stone’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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We got to keep people working. So we're going to get into this military business. And that's what we did off and on. We did it through the era up to where Eisenhower says in 1960, you know, he's built the greatest nuclear force and army of all time. Because in 1960, we have how many warheads?
And China.
It's very important because there is... It's Annie Jacobson's book. There's no partial victory in this book. It's impossible. Once it gets, it's a chain reaction. Once this thing starts, there's so many different aspects to it. It's a bureaucracy beyond belief. The names, all the names of all the systems we have protecting ourselves. One thing, it's clockwork.
It's so rare if this, if it hangs, we don't have a fail safe is what I'm trying to say. We really don't. So what does it look like once the chain reaction begins? Oh, she describes it beautifully, minute by minute. She talks about what's going to happen to you, me, and forget about Los Angeles, forget about New York.
And then nuclear winter is something we discovered in what year?
That was the idea in Failsafe. Kubrick didn't know anything about nuclear winter when he did the movie, but he had the underground system being described by the Dr. Strangelove, remember? Yes. By the way, I did a clip. I showed Strangelove to Putin. Dr. Strangel, I showed it to, I wanted him to sit through that climax. Had he seen it before? No, he never heard of it, I don't think.
And he sat through it with me and it's on film. His reaction is,
Oh, he knows. He's a very realistic man. This is serious. He doesn't bullshit. He talks very straightforwardly, and I think we don't understand that. Our language is a little more rhetorical than his. Yes. He's pretty consistent. He said this is a red line in Ukraine, and he always has maintained that, and he went to war for it. The red line being NATO up against his border.
The Russian minority in Ukraine. They moved into Donbass. Donbass and Lugansk were the issues at that time. Now...
that was that was what was at stake yes they promised the ukrainians promised to means one and next two they promised to respect the autonomy of those people they never did they started killing them and that there was terrorism ukraine changed in 14 after maidan it became truly a dangerous country because they had a lot of zealots in the government.
They weren't Nazis, but they were a lot of people like that who were working with the Ukrainians and terrifying the Russians. I don't know, you saw my movie, we've been talking about Ukraine in winter. It's about that Maidan and how these people got into power. That was a violation of the neutrality of Ukraine, which had existed since the end of the Cold War. It's a sad story because we wanted it.
It was our entree. Obama said, we want neutrality. We want this and that. We want to have a good relationship. And meanwhile, he betrayed it. He betrayed it with the, Maidan broke into violence. I don't know if you know all the details, but there was a lot of killing of the protesters.
And the evidence is really pointing heavily to the neo-fascists there who came in and shot these people from these rooftops that were controlled by the Ukrainian side. It's a very sad story.
We announced it as we were catching the butchers, the people who were dictators in Serbia.
And that was our excuse. But essentially, it was a much more... important destabilization of, we bombed a city in Europe. Yes. Belgrade for 99 days. I mean, think about it. We came into the war and called it, it's a complicated war. There were two peace treaties. Don't have time here to go into it. But essentially, we wanted to balkanize Yugoslavia, which we did. Yes.
The same way we're going to balkanize Syria now. Yes. This is American policy. Divide, conquer, divide, conquer. Balkanize it. Cut it up into Kosovo was a violation at the deepest level of everything we're talking about. We talk about the rules-based order. Yes. They had a referendum that was a little bit shady. And we said, they're free. They're no longer part of Serbia.
Kosovo was a gangster state. It's a whole, I was there, I don't know. I can't tell you. It's grim what happened to them.
And don't forget, in Iraq, when we went in there, Germany, France, and Russia did not join. They did not agree with that. Schroeder and Chirac. It's important because what's happened now is the opposite. France and Germany are all for leading the charge. there's been a change in values. And you say, where? I don't know why.
I think there's some kind of, NATO is not the one, but it's sort of an elitism that has come into being in Europe, an elitism of the leaders coming from a university where they're trained to be leaders. but they all think alike. That's what surprises me. Frankly, Farage, whatever he says, he's different. At least he says something that's different. Le Pen says something different.
So that's why these people are appealing to people because they're saying there has to be some peace. This is madness.
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