Owen Rask

It's interesting to see where that comes from and totally makes sense.

I'd encourage everyone to think like, where do my habits with money come from?

Like, where does that stem from?

With someone similar to him, is it just more about, is the bigger rock, I guess, the behavior or is it the numbers?

Can you pull them apart?

You said that he had some quick wins.

What were they?

That's one thing off my list.

So he'd already been automating it and didn't realize.

So, like, obviously introspection and all those types of things are really important, but you've got to do something with it.

Like, you've got to, so someone out there is listening, like, what are the things that I could do?

I'm not, like, maybe I can build a buffer with my money instead of going monthly and maybe I can have a sub-account that then pays me regularly and drip feeds my spending money.

And that's a great idea for people, by the way.

Yep.

When do you go from, okay, I've got enough info to let's do something, like, let's push it in and put it in place?

We've partnered with Pocketsmith to do this series with Christian and we're very grateful for the people at Pocketsmith and the tools that they provide and the insights.

Yep.

Where does something like an app or a service, a tool like that come into the process?

Yeah, fair enough, fair enough.

So we've got more episodes to come with Christian and just Pocketsmith and this whole coaching idea in general.