Pablo Torre

And this set off this argument

which is not really about one thing, but lots of things.

Because the reporters, the sports reporters, were referring to the Adam Schefter tweet, as far as I could see it, in which he said, what a great comment by this reporter, and he's the one who made this thing go viral.

And meanwhile, everyone else who's not in this industry on the side of the journalists are pointing out,

This lady rules.

Like, she's awesome.

She's friendly.

She's nice.

She has great vibes.

And you guys are spoil sports in almost a literal sense.

You ran a professional sports team, the Marlins.

How did you manage team-friendly media?

What was your radar like for the people in a presser who might ask questions that you hated or that you really wanted asked?

To that point, John, I think you do raise an interesting sort of comparison, though, because if nothing else, the White House now is even more deliberate in staffing its press area with friendly entities.

Well, listen, I want to interject myself into this conversation before somehow David Sampson becomes the wokest person on this show, which would be a startling turn of events.

I want to actually shed all of that language because the thing that I am seeing here, just as the journalist guy on the sporting class, is just the vocabulary problem.

Like, I think what I was intuitively feeling when I saw that tweet, which I did not respond to or repost or anything because I immediately had the, whatever, the low bar of foresight to say, wow, that's not a character I want to be on the other side of as like the critic pointing out the nice older woman is like violating my professional standards.

What I was reacting to was just the question of who gets to be called a reporter, right?

And I think that the word reporter versus the word journalist versus the word podcaster or interviewer, we're so bad at defining what these words mean, right?

Because Bill Simmons, by the way, absolutely changed the whole business and changed the norms around it.