Paola Ramos

If they too somehow try to out-Trump Trump at the border and be the ones that were like, but we actually mean it, that that would resonate with Latinos.

And it didn't.

So I think we spent time talking about Trump, but the truth is also that there is this deep, deep, deep disillusionment among so many Latinos

that are so tired of being promised the same things that have nothing to hold on to, right?

Like no real vision from Democrats.

And I think they want more and they desperately want more.

And I don't believe that this like anti-Trump movement is enough.

It's not.

You need more, of course not.

You need more, you need a vision.

And that's where I go back to these like stories that are heartbreaking, which is the decision to leave or not.

And the numbers show you that for the first time in decades, there are more immigrants leaving than coming.

And I don't think we understand as a society the profound long-term effects of what it means to have generations of immigrants that then go home and that then tell the other family member, it's not worth it anymore.

That American dream that drove everyone here, that's gone.

I don't think we've wrapped our heads around what that means and how that can transform this country.

And that's what I see.

Transmigrants.

That one's the best.

So it is.

Yeah.