Paola Ramos

They're going to eat you.

Yeah.

know this immigration problem i'm like you live in a gated community that's all white every house is a cracker assaulting cracker like were the numbers so much higher with biden they were high yeah there were a lot of what about deportations they were not as high it is true that there was a high high influx of asylum seekers coming in but the way that the media talks about it help our economy

course it did but but but this is why like and when i'm on tv and when our colleagues are on tv like i'm so careful with the language right one thing is calling it and even msnbc sometimes would call it this way one thing is saying there's a border crisis the other thing is saying there's a humanitarian crisis right one thing is saying and that's and that's so important because yes there were hundreds that is true there were hundreds and thousands of asylum seekers

were coming from insane asylum system not criminals but people that in this country have a constitutional right to seek asylum and that is true there were many and it was mishandled and the tr in the biden administration mishandled it not for the reasons that trump will tell you but for the reasons because it was not framed as a real humanitarian crisis and that's what it was

And so, and that's why it's very, you can call them illegal aliens or you can call them undocumented immigrants.

You can say it's a border crisis or a humanitarian crisis.

You can say that they're criminals or that they have a legal right to seek asylum.

And yes, it was a mess, but Trumpism thrives off the fear mongering.

It thrives off those images.

It thrives off telling everyone that the danger is imminent.

But it's in your backyard.

It's about to be here.

And to be fair, what was interesting about living in New York during that time is that for the first time, New Yorkers that suddenly saw asylum seekers in the streets were faced with the reality.

OK, so so what does it mean to be among immigrants that need help?

And sometimes the answer wasn't what you thought it was.

Remember that Trump made a lot of inroads in New York.

He really did.

And so I think, you know, one thing is to talk about it and the other thing is to be exposed to it like you are every day.

Right.