Pastor Cal

Oh, it is my pleasure.

My pleasure.

I'm great.

You know, I'm great.

You know, look, I have nothing to complain about because who wants to hear complaints?

16 seasons ago.

My wife and I had been doing marriage coaching and we had been doing conferences and online coaching and just a lot of stuff we've been doing practically our whole marriage.

And we were actually contacted by a casting agent who wanted us to find a couple for one of their other shows.

Kinetic Content is the producer, the production company.

They want us to find a couple for one of their other shows way back in the day called Seven Year Switch.

So we found them a couple and they loved the couple.

But while the couple was on the show, they kept talking about us.

And well, they would say, you know, that's not what Pastor Cal said.

That's not what Whitney said.

So the more we talked, they wanted to talk with us and film us in a session with that couple.

So while we were doing that, they were texting the EP, and the cameraman was texting the EP, and the showrunner was texting Chris Colen, and it was just a lot going on, saying, you've got to hear this guy, you've got to really listen to this couple.

So we had a meeting and they asked me what I felt about the show and how would I change things and what would I do?

And I gave them some very straightforward advice, some of my opinions, and they liked it.

So they asked me to be a part of the show and the rest is history.

Oh, yeah.