Pastor Cal

You're supposed to draw people with it.

And the one thread that runs through the fabric of all that we believe is love.

And I believe firmly that if I could present love in a way where people can not only see it, but it becomes palpable, you can get a picture of it, you can know what it looks like, then I believe I've done my job.

I've done my job.

Absolutely.

Don't we have enough of that in our society already?

We have so much division and so much sectarianism and just people going into their own little silos and looking at other people as though there's something wrong with them because they don't believe what you believe.

Right.

It's too much.

Marriage Ain't for Punks.

Marriage Ain't for Punks.

It ain't.

Yeah, you know it ain't.

Marriage is, the book is a

a collection of the last 20 or so years of relationship experience.

And we poured just about everything into this book.

And as we often say, it's not just for read, it's for study.

And the whole idea behind it is to make sure that we look at marriage and give people something that's practical that they can walk away with.

I don't want people to just feel good.

And I want them to know what love is.