Patrick Bury

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138 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 6 Sep

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The Pat Kenny Show · The War in Ukraine is entering a new phase · 26 Apr 2026 podcast

I think one of the things is off the shelf and good enough is better than exquisite and long-term planning procurement issues.

So, yes, there's a lot to be learned from there.

And you've got to be careful not basically orientating yourself totally for

uh for the war which is obviously is what's going on in ukraine versus a war which is what would the next war

potentially look like, given the experience of Ukraine.

Now, I suppose people are marvelling at Ukraine under attack from Russia.

First of all, Crimea taken, and that is, I suppose, disputed.

Many in Crimea themselves might prefer to be Russian, but that's an argument for another day.

But then we had the invasion of 2022 and people wondering how a country under that kind of pressure from a mighty neighbour can gear up so quickly.

But, I mean, Ukraine was a sophisticated industrial manufacturing country, was it not?

Yeah, and it had a good part of the old Soviet defense industrial base, too.

So, yes, it's not coming from a completely standing start on this.

But I think what's amazing is the nature of it.

And you hear this from people, even who are training Ukrainian soldiers, for example, Pat, that the way they problem-solve off the hoof, rather than just going for the kind of doctrinal...

training answer, you know, even if the tactical solution is they use their heads more so than even potentially, you know, other NATO soldiers or NATO soldiers would given the same tactical problem.

So they're thinking because they're the weaker of the two countries, it's immediately to the where is the adaptation, where is the innovation?

And that's what's been most impressive.

Well, the war is still ongoing and, of course, efforts to create some sort of a peace process have faltered, given the concentration now on the Middle East.

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