Patrick Bury

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138 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 6 Sep

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The Pat Kenny Show · The War in Ukraine is entering a new phase · 26 Apr 2026 podcast

There's only eight of those in the world, and it looks like they've definitely taken out radar on one, potentially up to three.

So, yeah, there's a complete asymmetry here.

And basically, you know, for kind of wider defenses, well, how do we move to defending against drones?

And can we use drones, which you're seeing as well, potentially as interceptors against missiles?

So that's where the technological leap is at at the moment.

And it has interesting implications for how Ireland, for example, set configures itself.

Yeah, well, we saw Santa Martin talking on behalf of the EU that we must learn from Ukraine or defence money will be wasted, Santa Martin said.

And the same obviously will apply in Ireland, the limited defence spending we have and the limited capability we have.

So what should we do based on the lessons of Ukraine?

I think what Ukraine's been able to do, first of all, it's a whole society effort because they're in a war, you know, an existential war.

And the rest of Europe isn't yet, but it might be.

And, like, if you look at what happened in the Allied nations in the Second World War, you had the same sort of thing.

The stops of government, the red tape and everything come off.

You know, innovative civilians start to contribute to this with different expertise.

And this is exactly what's happened in Ukraine.

You've got a load of small, medium enterprises, startups,

between their own self-funding and various funding mechanisms from the Ukrainian government, see a problem, quickly orientate to how to solve it and get that into production.

and then scale it up.

So it's that kind of fleet of foot that really, frankly, you don't see unless there's an existential threat to the state and a civilian effort.

But we can learn from it.

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