Patrick Shaw

And so this is our growth track.

I just went to last year's revenues, which was 2.9 million.

Our goal this year is just over 4 million, and we're just a little bit behind that target.

But, you know, we're having really steady growth.

We're bootstrapped.

I did go to...

A friend of mine, and I didn't, again, I knew nothing about SAF.

So I go to this private equity guy who's a friend and I think, well, you invest in companies, you've got to be able to help me.

So I go to him and I'm like, well, I'll give you 10% of the company for nothing.

Now, it turns out he knew nothing about SaaS, right?

He just invested in a lot of different kind of companies and billionaire.

And he's like, well, I'll give you $300,000 for 20%, which is a lot of equity, but I'm like, I'm clueless and I need somebody to guide me through some of this.

So I'm like, okay.

Now, I will tell you in a little bit how I got a million dollars for zero equity shortly, which was one of the important things for us.

But sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Anyway, some of this worked out.

But I gave them that.

They provided no value.

But they're still good friends.

So anyway, we just started building.