Pete Buttigieg

And frankly, you and I are, one of us is more likely, not to be flip about it, but one of us is more likely to randomly die of natural causes during this taping than to be involved in a commercial airline fatality.

Let me talk about that, but I want to park that to the side because we should probably talk about what happened there.

Let me talk about that, but I want to park that to the side because we should probably talk about what happened there.

I hate entrepreneurs.

I hate entrepreneurs.

I don't think most Democrats do.

I don't think most Democrats do.

But I know what you mean about the vibes.

But I know what you mean about the vibes.

And we should get to the piece about Elon particularly.

And we should get to the piece about Elon particularly.

But on the substance of the question you're raising.

But on the substance of the question you're raising.

I think it's really important to think of this as...

I think it's really important to think of this as...

Not like, should it be government or should it be the private sector, but which parts should government do and which parts should the private sector do?

Not like, should it be government or should it be the private sector, but which parts should government do and which parts should the private sector do?

So to me, like the classic example is just the smartphone, right?

So to me, like the classic example is just the smartphone, right?

I cannot imagine that a smartphone designed by the federal government would be a pretty thing or that an app designed by, matter of fact,