Pete Buttigieg

But if you look at where we are on the spectrum between too far this way and too far that way,

But if you look at where we are on the spectrum between too far this way and too far that way,

It's not like we're doing this in a vacuum.

It's not like we're doing this in a vacuum.

There's historical data.

There's historical data.

Do I think the majority of the OBBA tax cuts went to rich people?

Do I think the majority of the OBBA tax cuts went to rich people?

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, either way you look at it, right?

I mean, either way you look at it, right?

Actually, if you're low income, dollars in your pockets is going down when you account for what they've done with the subsidies.

Actually, if you're low income, dollars in your pockets is going down when you account for what they've done with the subsidies.

I mean, remember, this is... I don't care how you measure it.

I mean, remember, this is... I don't care how you measure it.

Which subsidies?

Which subsidies?

Can you name me a measure?

Can you name me a measure?