Pete Buttigieg

I don't think that's the worst metaphor to think about how things should work at the national level too, right?

I don't think that's the worst metaphor to think about how things should work at the national level too, right?

We should believe that we're getting good services, good infrastructure.

We should believe that we're getting good services, good infrastructure.

That was obviously what I worked on when I was at the federal level as Secretary of Transportation.

That was obviously what I worked on when I was at the federal level as Secretary of Transportation.

We should get good national defense and all the other things that we as a country are

We should get good national defense and all the other things that we as a country are

That's not true.

That's not true.

And I'm really glad you raised that because it's actually one of the biggest red herrings we had to deal with.

And I'm really glad you raised that because it's actually one of the biggest red herrings we had to deal with.

So this is a program to get EV chargers deployed by 2030.

So this is a program to get EV chargers deployed by 2030.

The thought was, you know, by 2030, we think about half of the sales or we were hoping about half the sales of cars in the country.

The thought was, you know, by 2030, we think about half of the sales or we were hoping about half the sales of cars in the country.

would be EVs.

would be EVs.

Now, in order to have that work well, we're going to need more chargers.

Now, in order to have that work well, we're going to need more chargers.