Pete Buttigieg

And importantly, we let them set up their own programs differently.

So we were going to dictate what the optimal subsidy was in Wyoming compared to West Virginia, or whether you even do it through a subsidy or whether it's owned and operated by the state.

So we were going to dictate what the optimal subsidy was in Wyoming compared to West Virginia, or whether you even do it through a subsidy or whether it's owned and operated by the state.

We took a step back on that.

We took a step back on that.

Let the states innovate, even if that means it's going to take a while for them to polish the program, knowing that that meant most of the chargers would go in in 2026, 2027, but well ahead of 2030.

Let the states innovate, even if that means it's going to take a while for them to polish the program, knowing that that meant most of the chargers would go in in 2026, 2027, but well ahead of 2030.

Now, the second thing, this is really important too.

Now, the second thing, this is really important too.

We made a conscious decision to insist that the chargers be made in America.

We made a conscious decision to insist that the chargers be made in America.

Now, when you do that, you're deciding that it's going to take longer.

Now, when you do that, you're deciding that it's going to take longer.

I'll just admit that because just buy them off the shelf from China would be dramatically quicker.

I'll just admit that because just buy them off the shelf from China would be dramatically quicker.

We thought that was worth it because we thought it was important to have a US-based industry with American workers, ideally union electrical workers, making and installing these chargers.

We thought that was worth it because we thought it was important to have a US-based industry with American workers, ideally union electrical workers, making and installing these chargers.

Again, we knew that if the goal was to get them all done by 2023 or 2024, we wouldn't have had the luxury of doing that.

Again, we knew that if the goal was to get them all done by 2023 or 2024, we wouldn't have had the luxury of doing that.

But since we thought most of the chargers would be needed by 2030, we were okay with that.