Phoebe Yang

Fundamentally, all of those players in an ecosystem revolve around one relationship.

And that relationship is between the person who's providing care and the person who's receiving care.

And fundamentally, everybody else is either trying to sell into or monetize or, you know, or equip that relationship.

But that relationship is one built on trust.

And so if you can't orient yourself around that model of trust, it's gonna be very hard to be successful, right?

But if you do orient yourself around that relationship of trust,

You can exponentially grow.

Right.

And so it's a it's a really interesting industry.

Now, many other industries maybe replicate that in some form.

But ours, I think, is the most is the most acutely deterministic of of that measure of trust.

You know what I do?

Well, there are two things I do.

One is I go to a mountain or I go to a body of water where there's no cell coverage.

I love to be in silence.

And occasionally if I can't do that, I remember one time I was in Rome and

And I went and found this church and my favorite painter is Caravaggio.

And there are these two amazing Caravaggio paintings in the Santa Maria del Popolo.

And I sat there all day and just journaled and read, prayed.

And so it was just wonderful.