Pierre LeBrun

I think it's nice to be recognized, and I think it's nice that when you're in that conversation and you're 24 years old, I think Bouchard's now 25,

You could be in that conversation for the next 10 years if you continue to progress in your play.

So congratulations to the other guys.

I had them on my list, and obviously a bunch of other voters did because they were the finalists, and they deserve to be there.

What do you think?

Listen, I also love Lane Hudson.

I love all the guys in there.

Yeah.

Ro, I'm sorry to interrupt.

That's exactly what I was going to bring up.

I think there should be.

There is an Art Ross where somebody just wins the points, and then you go to the heart, you go to the Ted Lindsey.

Selkie.

But what I'm saying is if you had just a defensive award for most points and then you had the Norris, I think you might see the Norris get different votes.

A guy like Jacob Slavin or Lacombe or like some of these guys who are actually complete defensive players that actually contribute offensively.

So you don't just go, oh, that guy got 90 points.

He's got to be in there.

Or this guy's dynamic or whatever.

I think you could have two separate awards, and it might actually shave off some of the bias towards the points as opposed to the word defenseman, defending.

I would much rather work with you guys than hear those who are playing on the golf course.