Rob Henderson

But a lot of influencers now, they're blurring this line between reality and hyperbole.

And because they're playing themselves, or at least they claim to be, and they often position themselves as brave truth-tellers, this is one of the things you saw.

I don't know if you caught that interview of Piers Morgan and Nick Fuentes, but Nick Fuentes tried to straddle this line between, Morgan would ask him a question and Nick Fuentes would respond, well, you know, it's a lot of hyperbole and these are just funny jokes that I tell among my friends and these are all just sort of insider humor.

And then it spills out and people don't understand that we're just messing around.

But then later in that same discussion, he would say, well, I'm actually a brave truth teller.

And Morgan asked, you know, would you ever run for political office?

And Fuentes said,

oh no, I tell the truth.

You can't get elected if you tell the truth.

And the question is, well, which is it?

Are you a brave truth teller or are you just this jocular funny host who's trying to get a rise out of people?

There's this fundamental contradiction in a figure like Fuentes.

I think he has no stable sense of self.

I would be curious to hear from you and from the clinical psychologist here, you know, what to make of someone like that, where he's very slippery and, you know, within 10 minutes, he will contradict himself three different times.

There was one moment in that discussion with Piers Morgan where, you know,

Piers Morgan said, you know, are you a racist?

And Fuentes says, yeah, I'm a racist.

And he says it like he's proud of it.

And then three minutes later, he says, oh, you know, I had, you know, I'm not that racist.

I had a black best friend when I was in first grade and I'm best friends with Kanye.