Roger Gracie

Because, you know, he's attacking you.

The one thing is if he's not trying to submit you, but the other one if it is.

Let's say it's a person who's very good, has a very good attack.

The first thing is defense, not just escape.

And expose yourself to an even worse position.

Because that is very risky.

When you're trying to escape, you'll always expose yourself to a worse position.

So avoiding that, first is defense, not getting caught.

And then when you're escaping...

Don't be in a worse position than you are.

It's everything together because it's a whole body movement.

It's constantly moving your arms, legs, body.

They have to... Everything works together.

Yes.

Like I say, I'm not going to say I'm fearless.

Of course, there's concerns.

That fight, I would have to say, was probably the fight that I got nervous the most walking in because I knew what that meant, that fight.

It meant everything for me.

All my legacy was on the line because if I had lost that fight, forever I would be number two.

Yeah.