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You do it the other way around.

You'll start at the end point of empathy towards the people that you are trying to help and then build up from there rather than build the product and then the marketing plan and what's the budget and how do we like it's the other way around, which is why it works.

AutoTrader.

Buy your car online.

Really.

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Oh my good God, I'm worried because I've seen you elbows deep in a Reddit hole for the last couple of days.

Reddit is the place I trust the most on the internet because it's real people.

Okay.

So are we kind of counting how many of these 20 I do?

And then also maybe late bloomers listeners, let us know in the comments how many you get basically.

Would that count if I became obsessed with making resin, bought all of the gear, industrial grade, started an Etsy shop called House of Resin and just bought the domain name and decided to dedicate my life and your life to resin?

Pottery painting phase, that was lovely.

We used to go pottery painting every weekend.

Resin was also expensive.

Soap making, bracelet making, hobbies.

Does that also include...

getting into different types of working out.

Are they hobbies or is it more?