Roxane Gay

I went to school on the East Coast and we would go to New York on the weekends and act up.

was very active at the time.

And it was amazing to see that there was this way of fighting back and that there were people who are willing to tell those stories.

After college, you ended up going to Columbia School of Journalism to get your master's degree.

And you've said it was a waste of money.

And I think most of us who have graduate degrees could probably say yes, 100%.

Why did you think you needed a master's degree to get into journalism?

Did you learn anything useful in grad school?

I can't believe he's doing that joke this many years later.

Of course, you know me.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

You enjoy holding on to like these important things.

Now, you've been doing this for like almost, not almost, more than 30 years.

And you've written for any number of publications.

You've been talking to, for, and about these tech leaders.

And many people in many publications refer to you as the most feared and the most liked journalist in tech.

I'm not sure about the liked part, but okay.

How do you walk that line?

I'm from San Francisco.