Roxie Nafousi

Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's the difference between people pleasing and making people happy?

That's so good.

That's such a great answer because I think sometimes we think, oh, I'm just not going to care what anyone thinks.

And I always hear both, right?

You hear one end of the spectrum, which is like, I wish everyone liked me.

The other end is, well, I don't care what anyone thinks.

And I'm like, well, neither of those are real or true because you can't just not care.

If everyone just didn't care what anyone thought, by the way, there'd be no need for art or music or...

philosophy or anything because we wouldn't care what anyone thought.

So no one would listen to this podcast and no one would read a book ever.

No one would watch a movie because we don't care what anyone thinks.

And no one would ever do that for us.

So we'd lose so much connection.

So caring is important.

But I love what you said about how when it's really about

making people happy, it's actually about them.

And when it's about people pleasing, it's all about you.

And it was never about them.