Rudy Mawer

And, you know, some of the, you know, you see the clips in the movies of hell week and stuff, right.

It,

you know, depending on how real it is, but it, but it shows what it takes to become a seal, for example, in the top 1%.

And I see that crossover in life, you know, you see the millionaire, but you don't see the 20 years or 10 years behind it.

So do you think that's like a massive key principle for any role in life?

For many years, too.

I love that.

So in talking about success and failure, I wanted to branch into this more leadership, right?

Because obviously we talked about your early life and training and stuff, but a big part of your life has been more in higher ranks, leadership roles, right?

And, you know, something I'm just so fascinated by in people like yourself in the military is I'm a CEO, I'm a leader, right?

I have 130, 140 staff and I make decisions that can impact those staff and my life and everyone's life differently.

But it's never to the level of you, right?

Or someone in the military where, like you said, lives are on the line.

So what makes a good leader under high pressure situations?

Well, and I think you have a much harder job too, because I'm a private company and I answer to my 130 staff and ultimately my customers.

Absolutely.

But, but at the end of the day, you know, you have to answer to the public judging you, the 2 million people in your department, but then there's all the politic games behind the scenes that you have to appease.

I, I built a life where I don't have to appease anyone really, you know, except for, for maybe the three letter words in the, in the, in the country, but, but I play by the rules, so they're okay.

So it's like, how do you, how do you juggle all those variables?

Yeah, I've always been fascinated by politics.