Rudy Mawer

Love it.

And, you know, last few questions I have now, like bridging into business, right?

Now you do a lot of consulting work with big companies, CEOs, et cetera.

And we've talked about a lot of it naturally, but what are those big bridges you see, you know, between the successful CEOs and when you come in and help work with companies?

What do you bring from that military service?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, just myself in the last 10 years, we've pivoted our business three big times, three different directions.

And, you know, every time you take a step back for a few months or a year in revenue, but every time, luckily, I've done that, the business has doubled or tripled over the next couple of years, you know, and it's, you know, I'm a very, I guess, I just go for it, you know, I just...

move forward.

But yeah, I think a lot of the time it's, you're right.

You have that group that are like, yeah, let's do it.

And then most are just like watching, right?

They're watching and they're seeing the way the tide goes, you know, and, and swaying them.

And, you know, I do think a big thing that sways them beyond obviously leadership, giving speeches is, is results, right?

Like I always talk results talk.

Yes.

So, you know, when people start to see the proofs in the pudding and, and,

And I think another good thing that I do as a leader, I think good leaders do is I'll always, I'll do whatever I make my staff do, right?

So I have Airbnb properties and real estate and I'll paint the walls and I'll move the boxes.

Good.