Ryan Bodenheimer

And then I continued to do that.

Unfortunately, I ended up losing three other close friends.

And that's just fighter jet aviation.

I mean, it's crazy, man.

The stakes are really, the margins for error are really slim.

But I think losing my best friend early on kind of put me in a position where I was like, all right, I got to have faith.

I got to have something stronger than just myself to get me through this.

And it helped me with the other three losses.

but they still affected me, you know, and we're all human.

So I think if veterans think that they can just power through, that's not the right approach.

There's so many access, there's so many programs out there right now.

There's regular therapy, there's alternative therapy, there's psychedelic therapy.

I mean, there's things that are being passed right now.

I saw that psychedelics for veterans might actually be a thing now.

Me too.

Yeah, I think in a controlled environment where you're able to unlock and access some of that trauma, look at it directly, process it.

But I think we really get in trouble as humans, whether a veteran or not, when you just bury trauma or hard things that have happened to you and you pretend like you're fine and you start to power through.

It doesn't work.

No.

Every time.