Ryan Graves

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Yeah, very little. It would be very specific to his actual responsibilities, his engineering work.
And he seems nervous. Well, he should be. He may truly believe that. Spilling the beans.
What's on the plate then after weapons of mass destruction?
Looking for parts.
All runs on an ECU. My understanding is that this is something China's been looking forward to. So what I mean by that is that they have not just been working on this technology in order to break our encryption now.
but have been storing our encrypted data from in the past such that when they do have that breakthrough, they have a lot of data to be able to utilize it on, not just what's happening now.
I think they typically refer to that as a man-in-the-middle attack. So you think you're connecting to the regular Wi-Fi, but you're actually connecting to the adversary's Wi-Fi, sending your data through there, and then they send that to the original box that you thought you were communicating with. And so they get all the information.
Exactly.
That's how they try to crack the Tor network as well.
If you're familiar with that, yeah, by setting up their own servers essentially to serve as a man-in-the-middle attack. But back to your point about China trying to work on quantum computing, on AI, I think China is probably one of the biggest motivating factors that the government has right now for opening up the conversation on UAP. Yeah.
So we haven't had this peer threat that we have to worry about that has a totally different investment government structure than we have. So in the United States, we have this capitalist market and we have innovations that break out through that model like open AI. But there are some capabilities where they are not appetizing to the market itself.
For example, how do we just suddenly stand up a chip fabrication facility in the United States that competes with the operations in Taiwan? It's not something that a VC is going to invest in. It's going to take billions and billions of dollars.
Exactly.
Exactly. Well, they did that because the government took a new approach. They stepped in and said, we're going to financially support this. We're going to open up the piggy banks. We're going to help with regulations and laws, and we're going to make this happen as soon as practically possible. That's the model that China uses all the time.
They see something, they go for it, they invest the money, they invest the resources. There's a risk with that. You could be wrong about the efficacy of the technology that you're trying to put forward. It could be strategically misaligned.
But if China is having the same issues with the UAP that we are having, then you could imagine them putting a lot of resources into better understanding that situation in a way that we're just not equipped to do. And the fact that they this conversation has grown more, that their advancements have been getting better. I think there is this pressure right now within the U.S.
government that if we do not further invest, somehow bring in, you know, the primary innovation makers within our economy, within the startup community, within the scientific community into this problem. If it's still just buried in a classified area, then we're going to get out competed by China that is able to dump all these resources into it.
Yeah, I think it can. I mean, we have a model for that United States with deep technology and edge technology. You know, these are capabilities that don't fit into a normal VC's lifecycle of five or six years before you're seeing returns. It might take 10 years before you have a product. Right. And there's a lot of risk that they could fail along the way.
But that's where we get a lot of our major innovations from. That's where we see very exotic technology being worked on, like advanced propulsion, communication systems.
Energy production and every one of these has huge potential added value to our economy. I mean, to the level that AI has, right? So, you know, there's a couple ways you can go about it. You know, you can either create a new investment cycle or structure that is more tolerant to the risk and more tolerant to extended time to returns, which, you know, you've got to fight market forces with that.
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