Ryan Hanley

Yeah, that healthy vulnerability.

Yes, I love that, healthy vulnerability.

Yes, healthy vulnerability.

The opposite is obviously toxic vulnerability.

Yes, yes, yes.

Which I have experienced more.

I had a boss who seemed, this was maybe seven or eight years ago, and before I maybe understood this concept, in retrospect, I understood what was going on.

But he would literally dump every life problem that he had from problems in his marriage to kids to all this stuff.

And it's like, it would almost stress us out more because now we're like, we have our own stuff.

And we have your stuff now.

Every single thing that you have to deal with.

Sure.

And it was a way, and this is kind of what I would love for you to comment on is like,

Again, looking back, retrospect, at the time, maybe I wasn't as sophisticated enough or mature enough in my career to understand what was happening.

But it was a way for him to justify the crappy things that he would do, say, etc.

Because he'd be like, well, I got this thing going on between me and my wife over here.

So I can just yell at you because I don't like the way you responded or whatever.

So-

One, I guess, maybe from the teammate's perspective, when you see this,

we'll call it toxic vulnerability being used as an excuse mechanism for bad boss behavior.