Ryan Hanley

You can go find it guys.

It's gone viral a couple of times, but, and it's brilliant.

I mean, it's absolutely brilliant, but it also kind of makes you like, when you hear that, if you're that type of like,

you know, I'm going to go get it.

You know, I'm going to work hard.

Like I'm going to dominate the world mentality, whatever your thing is.

Like you can't help, but like now lean towards him a little and be like, geez, I kind of, I kind of hope these guys win.

Like, I love that.

Like you can't help yourself.

It's like, it's a human reaction.

And,

You know, I guess my last question for you around this is just like, if you do get that founder who really wants to just sit in the dark room and code, that's their zone of genius.

That's where they want to be.

Would you, and if there's another option added, but I guess the two that I'm thinking about are, do you recommend that that founder stay in the room and stay in their zone of genius and hire out a face to go out and start telling the story?

Or is it look like,

I know that's where you want to be, but part of your role as the founder and CEO of this company is you need to spend some time in front of people and start to develop that side of, uh, your career of, of, of how you operate.

Yeah.

I love that idea.

And it's funny.

I, I, you know, I'm been in insurance for a long time and executive different things, you know, today I do more consulting and coaching.