Ryan Holiday

You know, there are all these ways that he shouldn't be

like us.

And yet he still has to get out of bed in the morning and he still is insecure or has anxiety or has ambitions.

He's still fundamentally a human being.

And I think that's what makes him so recognizable and relatable to us.

And so when Mark Stabilis is saying you, although he means me, he accidentally ends up meaning all of us.

And that is the beauty of and the power of meditations.

Debra, you're up.

Hello.

I'm doing great.

Oh, that's a great question.

Yeah.

You know, it's funny.

I don't have my OG copy on me.

I have a new one here in front of me.

But it's funny to watch as I go through it.

I can see that I asked questions to myself when I read it the first time that, you know, I've subsequently been able to answer or differing opinions as I go.

I mean...

When Marcus Aurelius talks about the idea of living in accordance with nature, that's not a concept the Stoics define super well.

There are also, I think, some passages in meditations that feel...