Ryan Peterson

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1,212 appearances 6 recordings 5 series first heard Apr 2025 last heard 20 Jun

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I mean, I think the thing that you cannot have is them being like union representatives of your employees.

They're not there to represent the company and therefore the CEO.

And so if there's if you don't have that as a CEO, like a trusted H.R.

leader and you feel like the H.R.

leader is more on the side of the employees than on the side of the company, then there's a problem.

There have been periods in my company's history and like the industry in general where you like didn't have the right H.R.

leadership that wasn't focused on the business outcome.

But the employees are the company and the company is the employee.

Everything else is a fiction.

We're just like just a fake brand name here with a bunch of people that are building the company or serving the customer.

So the word HR is kind of wrong because they're not, humans are not a resource that you can mine and take out of the earth.

Like you have to give back to the employees and have a two way relationship.

Some, not those names in particular, but yeah, some.

And I think the negotiation that we're going to have with Salesforce is going to be a lot different than the last one.

Because I think selling SaaS to tech companies is going to be a tough business because we can build stuff ourselves.

And Salesforce is great, although most of our people don't like Salesforce.

How much do you spend on Salesforce a year?

A few million.

A few million?

Yeah.

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