Ryan Smith

And that's the fandom coming out.

Like, I know, I know the pain of not getting over the hump for Utah and so long and being like, when I took over and,

you know, one of the second or third most winningest franchise in the last 30 years without getting over the hump.

It's kind of crazy.

And so, you know, I think the lottery moment for every jazz fans, every jazz fan was like, boy, it's like whatever.

It's just nice to get a little luck.

It's nice to feel.

It's nice to have the light shine a little bit.

And I think there is a little bit.

I mean, there's no way to not look at it the last couple of years and say, hey, there's a lucky part of our game a little bit.

But if I look back at my career, I was extremely lucky in tech and when you were born and the timing and when I graduated college and where I went to work and what I almost went to go do but didn't.

And so luck's a part of all of it.

Yeah, it's good.

There's a lot of healing.

Yeah, I mean, I go to BYU is like a mile from my house.

So like it's it's kind of it's my alma mater.

It's where I went to school.

It's where I play hoops three or four times a week.

That's like part of why I live where I live.

It's a little bit like, you know, if you're going to live in Raleigh or whatever, you're right next to campus.