Sam Reich

You know, I think Nebula, for instance, is one of those businesses.

And, you know, in the last couple of years, maybe a little bit inspired by us, maybe not, depending on the specific example.

But Try Guys have launched their answer to this.

Critical Role have launched their answer to this.

But my hope...

is that there are more people that follow in our footsteps because I think it's only better for Dropout if there are more examples that people can point to to say, I subscribe to this small collection of indie streamers.

And I think it behooves us

to have that group be larger because it means better resources for our business as well.

You know, we depend on third party technology in order to power dropout.

And, you know, if there aren't enough streamers to use Vimeo OTT or, you know.

They're not going to keep supporting the product.

No, we tried.

People don't realize this.

The first rendition of Dropout was built on Vimeo OTT's API, but it was our own product.

And we employed something like eight sophisticated engineers at IAC to build our own product around it.

And it was brutal, which is to say it's just very hard to do very well.

And these were great engineers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Technically, I think I have like two or three.