Sam Tannenhaus

In Houston, you're right.

It was a convention in 1992.

And Pat, who's a friend of mine, had challenged George Bush, President George Bush, the first George Bush, for the nomination in 92 and had done very well in New Hampshire.

And Buchanan was a great phrase maker.

And he said, we'll fight them on the ice.

And then when the ice melts, we'll fight them in hell.

You know, we're not going to give it up.

And of course, he lost.

But he was given important keynote speech or not keynote, but important late night speech, you know, midway through the convention in Houston.

And this is where he made his really famous statement that Buchanan did.

And I'm paraphrasing all the text in front of me.

We're going through a political and religious and cultural war.

And what everybody picked up on was the culture war because they thought he was talking about gay rights, abortion.

And he was.

But he was also talking about a worldview.

what we would think of as a secular liberalism that has completely taken over the culture, dominated.

And he said, the guy the Democrats have put up, Bill Clinton, he's the face of that.

And whatever you think of George Bush, he's not that.

He comes out of an older style, older idea of what America is.

And Buchanan saw this 92, right?