Samuel Tongue

I suppose it's that, yeah, the thing is, dot, dot, dot.

It's just got, yeah.

You have to respond.

You have to respond to it.

Just open up.

Yeah, yeah.

And then a project that you've been working on as well as, and I wonder if this links with what you were saying about your work in Maggie centres, but more widely as well as exploring the healing wells of Scotland.

You've been doing, yeah, quite an extensive work on that.

And that's been influencing, you were writing around those and writing your own responses to your experience of those wells.

Yes.

So in that sense, would you then say that your focus is kind of ecological, environmental, mythological, a bit of everything, a bit of all of those things?

And the most recent work, which I've only seen images of, I haven't seen the book itself, but some beautiful images of where the grass dances.

And again, could you describe that project for us?

I love that, keeping the veins green.

That's really lovely.

That's a lovely image.

So not only co-facilitating, but actually collaborating on the final product.

On the workshops, yes.

So then the box, so that gives you elements of the objects.

So what's in the box?