Sara Madden

And it's usually not as bad as what the tool says, because it likes to be flashy and dramatic, right?

So you just don't trust it.

And you look at the results.

And to me, it's not

too much different than our regular vulnerability testing that we do with the various different tools we have or the pen testers that we use.

There's false positives in almost everything we work on.

So just simply don't trust it.

And then when it comes to just use cases that we're building out, the human in the loop control is just super important until we get more confident with the accuracy of the AI output.

I agree with you.

The reason you've got unmanaged service accounts is because you only have three people.

Well, if you lose your resources, then you can't fix the technical problems, which is the principle that I agree with.

Right.

I think the worst scenario is losing your good people when you already have a small team, for sure.

I mean, none of us have been in perfect environments where we don't have the second scenario.

Let's just be honest with ourselves.

But if you lose your people, you can't fix it.

This is Thump the CISO.

Of sore?

See, this is why we all need to work together.

I'm thinking this is why you need expertise in this industry to do your job.