Sarah Burke

And hi, Jan.

Hi, Sarah.

I like people who recognize that a good conversation is not about them or about me, but it's about the person watching at home.

And so I'm going to show up for their people and get it.

That's what I really love.

And Mike Fox is at the top of that list for me.

He was willing to present and be the complete human being that he is.

And he wasn't being interviewed to serve any private purpose of his.

It was a conversation that he knows people watching will get different things from and he was willing to show all sides of himself for that.

And I think in a world where there's so much

Bullshit and stand culture and celebrity protecting.

And I think that he said to me once a long time ago, vanity is overrated.

And the moment he realized that, he became free.

And I think somebody in an interview, like an interviewer,

It's an artifice, right?

And it's weird for, especially now that we have a million podcasts out there, right?

And there are very few that will let the space exist like you two do.

And so people just think they show up to play a part.

Mike didn't play a part.

And I really respect that about him.