Sarah Gonzalez

And I remember being like, oh, I really want to buy anything.

at least like good t-shirts so that her little face and her little mouth that she sleeps on me is like on something that I can feel good about her like laying on.

So then I set out for like a year and a half to try to find a t-shirt that I could feel good about.

A t-shirt that looks good, that feels good, that is good for the environment.

And then ideally the last layer was like

Good labor practices.

We're an economics podcast and we're like fun and narrative.

I mean, it's so hard to be a good shopper, you know, and then you have like children and they grow out of things and so you have to buy them more things.

I'm like a bad consumer.

Like, where should I buy this T-shirt that I can feel good about?

And then I did it.

an interview with a remarkable woman.

Her name is Aisha Baron-Blatt.

She's the CEO of this group called Remake.

Their whole thing is like, we want to like remake the fashion industry.

I was asking her, like, you tell me, like, where do you shop?

Like, you've dedicated your life to this.

So like, what do you do?

You have like six pieces of clothes in your closet?

So she has six pieces of clothing that she like owns.