Sasha Sagan
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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But whatever we were able to glean through evidence about what life or not life existence, inanimate existence, maybe there was would be science.
No, I disagree, because it's the fact that we're like the goal is to constantly test it. And then when there's new information, change accordingly is kind of to me the opposite of faith gets used. Yes. Like sometimes faith gets used as like opposite. optimism or like pause, like having a good attitude. And like, I'm all for that. You know what I mean? If it's like, oh, things look terrible.
And it's like, have some faith. I mean, like it could work out. That would be great. You know what I mean? Like that is a different thing than the idea that no matter what you're presented with, no matter what evidence is brought your way, you will not waver. That is a different thing. And I feel like that is antithetical to science.
Sure. Yes, totally. But if we could somehow, even with everything that we're used to from our planet and solar system, not working, if we can somehow then glean what's different, why it's different, what the like structure of it all is, that pursuit would still be science.
I just also think it's like no matter what, like it's the when if we ever get to go out into the universe and get some new gases, as you say, or we got to get new gases. I'm sick of these old ass gases. That's the number one thing. I'm brewing some of my own right now. I think no matter what we find, but it will just underscore how precious and rare this planet is.
Oh, no, I know. I wrote about this in my book, and I've spent a lot of time in Los Angeles, and I have the same problem because people are like, what sign are you? And I'm like, I'm a Scorpio, but I don't believe that there is any evidence to support astrology.
Yeah, totally. Start a huge argument about it. No, it's a huge problem, actually, that I mean. Is it a huge problem in the grand scheme of things? No. But I think, so no, astrology does not, it's not supported by evidence. And how would that even work if it were? How would, like, that's the kind of the crux of all of this. Like, how would what planets and stars were in what universe?
like position above your, like above the hospital when you were born have any impact on your personality? Like how would that work? You know? And I think it's just, yes, no, I'm, I guess my personality changes with a head injury.
Maybe that could reveal your rising. thing that I really that I the thing about astrology that really gets me is I think the desire for it like the hunger for it and the hunger for like a lot of stuff in that genre like crystals and things like that is because we do have this desire to be, to feel like we're part of the universe.
And we do have that desire to feel like connected to the earth and feel that like, and I think especially if people are not religious, there is that hunger to feel connected to one another and to the grandeur and majesty of the universe. And I think that that is valid, but I just don't think astrology or crystals are the road there.
Yeah, open up just a science library instead. Yeah.
Well, I do think the rise of... like I'm sort of normalizing a lack of religion. I do think that it can make more fanaticism because sometimes you dig your heels in deeper when you feel like there is a threat. And I think that, you know, we, listen, even the most devout, most
religious traditional person alive today is doing things very differently than their ancestors were doing a thousand years ago right nobody is like perfectly following this ancient thing we are all changing and adapting and pulling things out of ancient texts that seem important and letting other things that were maybe the headline fall by the wayside and sort of just um
Like anything, traditions, rituals, religions, they have to mutate in order to survive. And so I think change is inevitable. And it's not so much a scale to me of more religious or less religious necessarily. It's that it's going to change over time. It's going to reflect the moment. What are the changes we want to make? What is the future that you want to...
to create for the next generation, whether you're secular or religious. And I think that if you're holding on like white knuckle, holding on to elements of a religion that divide, that belittle the people that are different, that cause violence, then you are not helping.
Yes, feeding people who are hungry.
Including people who are outcasts. Yes. That stuff doesn't seem like it's so... Centered. That has not been the main headline in the Christian nationalist movement. And I have a bone to pick with them about that. Yeah, I agree with that.
We're not on the same page. No. Yeah. I mean, it's a mirror, right? Religion, like anything, it's a mirror. You want a reason to feed the poor. You want a reason to do, you know, acts of kindness to build a hospital. You can find it. You want a reason to feel like you're better. Your little group is the one good group and everybody else can just suffer. Then you can find that too.
And I just think more and more it's, well, maybe always, but I think I see a lot of it is about identity and not about theology. It is, I mean, right, people who, like, identify really strongly with a group, but maybe not Haven't done the reading. You know, I think that is it. And that goes back to something very ancient and very tribal.
And like that, you know, we maybe there was some evolutionary advantage tens of thousands of years ago to be like we live in a band of 20 or 30 people and we got to just survive and we can't trust anybody else.
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