Sasha Sagan
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98 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Right. But now our village is 8 billion people and counting. And we got to start looking at it that way because the differences between the groups and like I said, like the set design and the script and the costume is superficial and it is totally unimportant. And that is the greatest...
gift of the cosmic perspective is when we get to zoom out and we're not down here seeing where the world feels really big and the differences feel really extreme. But when we can look at the image of the Earth from space and we see that all these borders are artificial and that if anyone were to show up from anywhere else, we would be indistinguishable, one group to another.
And that I think that we have to just, you know, use this amazing gift that science has given us to see ourselves as on this lifeboat together in this vast ocean to realize that the little things that people are willing to kill each other over are
Right. But also that's such a reveal because it's saying I would like be a serial killer if I wasn't worried that somebody was watching. You know, that's the really scary thing about that argument to me is because it's like. The idea of getting caught or getting in trouble or getting your, like, comeuppance later on is the reason you're not doing, like, really bad things.
And then about all the little other things that they don't like, all the little sexual infractions that are, like, between consenting adults or by yourself or, like, all the things that they don't like. It's like, well, then if no one's...
hurt, like, or two people getting married and just because they have the same parts, you know, like, it's like, well, then we don't need, you don't need to not do that. Like, if no one's being hurt, then it's okay. And if someone, and if someone is being hurt, you should have another method, another system internally that says this is bad besides, you
Being, you know, on the, you know, CCTV of the universe.
Well, I just, I mean, I think there is like, I mean, I do think there is community. And like, I think that when we can look at ourselves as belonging to us,
the planet, I think we can, you know, and the thing that I really admire about religion, even though I'm not religious and I'm critical of it in a lot of ways, is the sense of community and the sense of belonging and having a group that comes together when, you know, times are tough and celebrates when things are going well.
And I think for those of us who are not religious, like we have to build that for ourselves. And I think being in one of the best ways to get that feeling is being involved in
causes that you believe in and volunteering and like you know social justice doing things to make things more how you hope them to be and it sort of also fills that need of like okay this is my group and we go with like stuff envelopes together or whatever canvas and I think there's something really to be said for that because we do want to feel like we're part of something but you know it just it shouldn't be something that is we're part of something that makes us superior to everybody else
And you can do it more than an hour a week. Oh, yeah. Look at me now. All I do is yap. Yeah.
So my understanding, and you'll have to tell me if I'm wrong, is that it is a subversive belief system. I feel like one of the things that I know most about the Satanists is the ways in which they have really worked within the legal system to sort of counteract some of the Christian nationalist beliefs. Oh, well, then can we go to the public school and hand out our flyers, too?
And sort of leading us to question the ways in which our society favors one belief system over the others. And I don't know, I heard someone say, like, you know, that Satanists don't really believe in Satan. They don't.
Same to you both.
I am very nearly 42 years old, so I don't think I'm allowed on tick tock.
Okay. No, but I am on Instagram. I'm Sasha Sagan on Instagram. And I just had the best time talking to you both. Thank you.
No, I'm on a little break right now. But I want to come back to it. Yeah, I really enjoy doing it. I like... I like asking people questions about why they feel like really strongly about, you know, April Fool's Day.
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