Strange Customs: An Interview with Sasha Sagan

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What makes this episode special?

Eddie 0:00
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Henry Zebrowski 0:22
Well, this is finally, I get a skeptic.
Eddie 0:25
Yeah, it's nice. It's not another crazy person I roll in here.
Henry Zebrowski 0:28
I have to just talk to someone and pretend to believe what they're saying.
Eddie 0:31
Yeah, it's not normal. Like, you know, you don't have to roll in. We don't have to go like, yes, of course, vampires. They are an unignored constituency. And they really do. Where is Kamala on this? Thank you, our wonderful, intrepid Patreon listeners. I am Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson. Hello. And we have a very special guest today. Someone, again, we talked right before. Very bright. Very smart. I don't know what we're going to do with this person.
Henry Zebrowski 1:02
You're just scared that she's going to tell you aliens aren't real.
Eddie 1:05
I am. My little soul can't handle it. But this is somebody I really like. We're so excited to have the author of For Small Creatures Such As We. and the host of the podcast, Strange Customs. I'm really excited because it's really cool. This is one of those things, it's a part of the world I'm super fascinated about. Like, why do we do what we do? We have author, creative mind, podcast host, Sasha Sagan.
Sasha Sagan 1:33
Hello, it's so nice to be with you both. Thanks for that hilarious and charming introduction.

How did Sasha Sagan grow up under famous parents?

Eddie 1:40
We're trying. We are trying. Obviously, also, I don't want to always be like famous daughter, but you know, like you're the famous daughter of someone is the saddest, you know what I mean? But it's not not when it's like this.
Sasha Sagan 1:52
Well, thank you. I do. I mean, a lot of my work and definitely my worldview is based on my parents' work. So I feel like it's part of my identity.
Eddie 2:02
Oh, yeah. Because what can you do? Because like Carl Sagan is your father. If I followed my father's work, I'd be in prison. Yeah, exactly. If I followed my father's work, I'd be drunk at Hogs and Heifers right now.
Ed Larson 2:13
Well, you're both doing great. We're doing our best.
Eddie 2:17
So it's like, can I actually, we'll just start with that. Like as the daughter of Carl Sagan, like, does it start like. Do people immediately assume, obviously, I know you're a genius because I was reading your essays. You know, you're very smart. That's way too kind. But you're very smart. But it's the idea of, like, people, when they roll up, are they, like, nervous? Or are they, like, or is it all, like, what's daddy like? What was daddy like? Or is it all, like, because you want to find the heart of the man. You sound like, you know, this wonderful, benevolent, sweet man. So what's it like? having to walk around with it. Is it a burden or a wonderful treasure?
Sasha Sagan 2:56
Oh, it's a wonderful treasure. I mean, I feel so lucky. I mean, both my parents, my mom, Andreanne, and my dad collaborated on books and essays on the original Cosmos series in the 80s, which my mom has written and produced and directed the new version of with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Eddie 3:13
I didn't even know that. I had no idea like how fully involved she was in the fact that like hunting for it for years, trying to get the Cosmos remake. Wow.
Sasha Sagan 3:23
Yes, absolutely. No, she's amazing. And both my parents, I mean, you know, in terms of like, is it a burden? It's really not. I feel so lucky. I lost, you know, my dad was amazing and he was a really fun, great dad. And I lost him when I was 14. And so when I meet people who have questions about him or read his work, like, you know, started reading his work a couple years ago when or even weren't even born in 1996. I feel this immense joy and gratitude that in this way, in this totally secular, real way, he is living on. And no, I love talking about it. And my book is partly about growing up in that household and growing up

What are the strange customs we engage in?

Sasha Sagan 4:08
with the worldview of, you know, that science is the pathway to not just understanding and like, not just to like reality, but to awe and wonder and joy and that spine tingling feeling that we are a part of something larger than ourselves.

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