Satya Nadella

Like, you and I doing a podcast like this, I think we're still, like, it's proving out to be the heart of one of those challenges, quite honestly.

I thought it was going to be more solvable.

It's tougher, perhaps.

just because of the social side of it, right, which is wearing things and so on.

We're excited about, in fact, what we're going to do with Adderall and Palmer now with even how they'll take forward the IVAS program because that's a fantastic use case.

And so we'll continue on that front.

But also the 2D surfaces, it turns out things like Teams, right, thanks to the pandemic, right,

We've really gotten the ability to create essentially presence through even 2D.

And that, I think, will continue.

That's one secular piece, the quantum we talked about, and the AI is the other one.

So these are the three things that I look at and say, how do you bring these things together?

Ultimately, not as tech for tech's sake, but solving some of the fundamental things that we as humans want in our life and more...

We want them in our economy, driving our productivity.

And so if we can somehow get that right, then I think we would have really made progress.

But at some level, I kind of look at it and say the simple model I have is, hey, is there a systems breakthrough?

And to me, the systems breakthrough is the quantum thing.

Is there a business logic breakthrough?

That's kind of like AI to me, which is like, can the logic tier be fundamentally reasoned differently?

And instead of imperatively writing code, can you have a learning system?

And that's sort of the AI one.