Scott Payne

Yeah.

I did the Ric Flair, woo, head first.

I'm like, I'm good, bam.

That's realistic.

And that's why he had the idea to create this thing, to make sure – because the safeguard –

is really it's what the word says right it's there to guard um the undercover or uh if you're looking at innocent images and stuff like that because what happened in the bureau is people working as images are they undercover no but headquarters may realize and rightfully so as these people need to be getting psychologically assessed yeah just for their own mental well-being

well you know what we've got this unit over here that does nothing but undercover why don't we start sending them there so you start getting because that's a specialized unit and then they end up doing all that stuff um and inundated and overworked and understaffed for for the stuff they've got to do but uh yeah that's what it was really there for to make sure you as a person as an fbi agent aren't losing yourself um because there's no case worth you losing your family yourself your health

Your marriage, your job, your life, there's no case worth that.

For sure.

Now, I'll throw a caveat because I'm also an active shooter instructor.

FBI and Alert got basically married each other in 2013 after the Sandy Hook school massacre.

Department of Justice from Obama all the way down said we need one entity in the Department of Justice to be the front runner for active shooter training.

Not knocking the other agencies out there, but the FBI has a SWAT team in every division, has a principal tactical instructor in every division, and you don't just make that.

You have building blocks.

In order to be a principal tactical instructor, in order to be a tactical instructor, they've changed some things now to get more people involved, but...

up until about five or so years ago, in order to be a tactical instructor, you have to be SWAT certified and you have to be an active firearms instructor.

So those are two building blocks.

Then you get that.

So to become an active shooter instructor, you had to be a tactical instructor.

So it was kind of a no-brainer, and they picked us.