Scott Payne

Wow.

Yeah.

So one of the things in the base case is much like if you looked at the white supremacy movement when they were using the words Christian identity.

that cannot be confused with Christianity.

They take the story of the Bible and they twist the living crap out of it till it meets their ideology of white supremacy.

So if you hear Christian identity, Church of Jesus Christ Christian, that is not Christianity.

They are not Christ followers per the Bible.

So when you hear a lot of base members or neo-Nazis saying they're pagans, same difference.

They're taking paganism and they're twisting the crap out of it to fit their ideology.

So that's kind of what the base did.

And I was pretending to be a pagan, a white supremacy pagan.

I've got great friends who are pagans and they are very peaceful and I love them to death.

but they would take the story like the Wild Hunt.

The Wild Hunt in Norse mythology is essentially Odin and some other gods going out and laying the smack down on all their enemies.

So we did some blots, which is the ritual ceremony in paganism.

I'd done some and, you know, pray to your gods and we'd cut ourselves and bleed on the wood with the runes.

And it's not just runes, there's white supremacy symbols on there too, so don't get confused.

Yeah, and bleed on it.

Holy shit.

And then we would light it on fire and pray until the fire went out.