Seamus (Shay)

And I think Stephen answered that and spoke about research, which we don't do yet.

But you're 100% right.

At the moment, it seems our focus for the two of us is on sales and is on doing that doing.

But that's probably not going to be sustainable because we've still got to focus on the product and making sure the product is great.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

I'm smiling along because, yeah, it just makes sense if the base is built and the foundation's there.

It's like what we did with marketing.

we realized that was the most important thing at that moment in time.

So anything that we were making, we would reinvest into marketing to try and get more partners on board.

So I feel like our marketing is at a point now where it's pretty recognizable.

But yeah, getting the partners and the variety of partners to see the benefit to linking up with the podcast is kind of where I think 2026 kind of goes to.

And yeah,

I think we spoke about in one of the other episodes about, I guess, deepening the relationship that we have with some of those partners.

I think so, yeah.

I think getting people on board so that it becomes almost, you know, synonymous.

Yeah, I mean, I even think Stephen and I's team is still finding its feet.

Like you've alluded to it, I've only been in the business full time for less than a year.

Yeah, yeah.

And I think we're still probably encroaching in each other's space at times and not really knowing where...

where do you start and where do you stop?