Sebastian Junger

Like there's all – and we've been that guy too sometimes, right?

And you're a strong, jacked-up guy who knows how to fight.

And if the world contained only peaceful men –

You wouldn't need to be.

You might want to be, but you wouldn't need to be.

But you're walking down the street, you know in your mind, I can defend my family and myself with my hands.

And I need to know that I can.

I'm just reading into your mind.

Obviously, I don't know how you think, but I'm guessing that somewhere in your mind, you're like, I can take care of business if my family's threatened.

And there's a security in that.

And if you just knew for a fact that there were no predatory people out there, not one.

You wouldn't need to be, right?

But that's not – we're social primates and that's not the world that we evolved in and it's never going to happen.

Right.

And it's not going to change overnight.

No.

Right.

I mean, we have the DNA we have.

We have the cultural wiring that we have.

You know, it's it's so, you know, all the democracies which are, you know, tend towards sort of fairness and and peacefulness because it's frankly good for business.